Message boards : Number crunching : Tips for installing Windows 7 (to allow MS software updates)
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Here are some hard-earned tips that I use when doing a clean install of Windows 7 64-bit. They will probably work for the 32-bit version as well. The basic problem is that after installation, the Microsoft updates don't work after a point. You can spend hours waiting as it "checks for updates", and you don't get anything. MS probably worked overtime to get into that state, and it is up to us to undo it. First: After installing Win7, allow Microsoft Update to install Service Pack 1 (not via a previously downloaded file). That will allow installation of remaining needed drivers, etc. BUT: Thereafter, automatic updates will not function (long "Checking for Updates"). So: Install the April 2015 servicing stack update for Windows 7 (Windows6.1-KB3020369-x64) => Reboot Then: install Convenience rollup update for Windows 7 SP1 (SP2) (windows6.1-kb3125574-v4-x64_2dafb1d203c8964239af3048b5dd4b1264cd93b9) => Reboot Finally: to get the updates working again, install Windows6.1-KB3172605-x64.msu (July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 SP1) (But note that if it won't install, then install KB3020369 first) And note that the August 2016 update rollup does not fix the update problem; only the July rollup does. => Reboot Thereafter, it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to check for the updates, depending on the speed of your connection. Useful reference: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_programs/windows-7-stuck-checking-for-updates/3831ed28-bd33-4a69-9806-a900e3bb1299?auth=1) There are a lot of other references, depending on where you get stuck, but this technique works for me. However, if updates still do not work, you can run the "Windows Update Fix" (WindowsUpdateDiagnostic), which will find and fix a couple of errors. But the errors may be harmless, and it hasn't really fixed anything for me yet. | |
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Microsoft's own solution to "Remove software related to the Windows 10 free upgrade offer": | |
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I expect that is a different problem. During the long update checks, I looked at network activity in Resource Monitor, and didn't see much happening. And we are now past the free update period. But it is worth a try. | |
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Good point. I ran never10 on 20th April on an existing system. No problems since. | |
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1. I did the rebuild Win 7 Professional Sp1 on Asus X54C laptop spare disk, from backup disks created as part of original install procedure. | |
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Here are some hard-earned tips that I use when doing a clean install of Windows 7 64-bit. They will probably work for the 32-bit version as well. The basic problem is that after installation, the Microsoft updates don't work after a point. You can spend hours waiting as it "checks for updates", and you don't get anything. MS probably worked overtime to get into that state, and it is up to us to undo it. Jim, thanks much for this. I've waded though numerous strategies to fix updates in Win7. Always eventually got it working but it's been a PITA. Of course now MS has gone to monthly rollups, making it much more difficult to determine which patch is breaking things. I believe this is intentional, yet another dirty strategy to force people onto W10. Many people are simply disabling W7 updates which of course can cause another set of problems. Anyway, below is the latest method I've been using on new installs (by Michael Firth) (also linked below): Fixing Windows Update - Windows 7 (Clean Install) I've found that often the detection time in step 6 is MUCH longer (hours). He also has instructions for fixing existing W7 installations. It's all described in the following post, complete with links to the needed files: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/deploying-windows-7-update-broken-heres-fix-michael-firth | |
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Makes me and a lot of people I help glad that I use Win 7 Enterprise. | |
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Makes me and a lot of people I help glad that I use Win 7 Enterprise. New installs of W7 Enterprise suffer the same fate, updates don't work until hoops are jumped through. :-( | |
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Didn't know that...if I have to do a clean install, I'll have this thread for reference and I'll let you know what happens. | |
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Didn't know that...if I have to do a clean install, I'll have this thread for reference and I'll let you know what happens. Sounds good. I've done 3 clean installs on W7 Enterprise recently. All 3 had the update problem and had to be fixed. | |
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Patch Tuesday 10th Jan - No problems with either the original Win7 (+ never10) or the clean install on a spare drive (again with never10). Took about an hour each. | |
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Fixing Windows Update - Windows 7 (Clean Install) Just tried going through this to fix my Win7 Update issues. I got to the part where I needed to install a few patches, but the links on the MS site don't seem to be working. However, having completed all the steps before those, Windows Update is now finding updates for me, after I re-enabled the Windows Update service (keeping it on Manual). Thank you for this. The issues with getting updates and SVCHost running on a full core non-stop have been going on for ages. EDIT: I actually followed the "Broken Existing Install" directions. | |
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Fixing Windows Update - Windows 7 (Clean Install) You're very welcome. This has been working on all my new installs. MS is such a PITA. Luckily, somebody usually finds a solution and shares it. | |
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I had 4 machines refusing to get updates. After I downloaded the msu files (stand alone installer) for each of the 3 kb's it got them all going again. 3 were W7 Pro and the 4th was a W7 Home Premium. The Microsoft fixit of course didn't fix anything. | |
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The Microsoft fixit of course didn't fix anything.no surprise to read this. Over the past years, I had several problem cases where Microsoft's recommendation was to run the Fixit. In none of them, anything was fixed. This Fixit obviously is a joke :-) | |
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I had mixed experiences with fixit, there are some issues of Windows update which could be easily fixed by this tool.The Microsoft fixit of course didn't fix anything.no surprise to read this. Since Windows 7 entered the extended support period on January 13, 2015 (more than two years ago), thus the fixit tool is not updated anymore. "Extended support period" means that there are only security updates (patches) released for the given product, until the end of this -last- support period (which is January 14, 2020 for Windows 7 SP1). See this link. To reinstall Windows 7, I use regularly updated Windows 7 SP1 installation media, too bad that it's made by enthusiasts, not by Microsoft. With these updated installation media these Windows update problems do not appear. The other tool I use is the WSUS Offline Update (it is also made by an enthusiast), which could make a DVD / USB drive containing all the latest updates for the selected products, and a script which installs all these updates. I did not use it lately (since there are cumulative updates released for Windows 7 instead of many linked updates), but this tool can save a lot of frustration caused by a fresh install from an old media. After you've finished your fresh install (drivers, apps, activation), it is highly recommended to make a full system backup to an external HDD. Alternatively advanced users can make an image file (install.wim) from their systems by rebooting from the source media after installation, pressing SHIFT+F10 to have a command line, then use the imagex.exe/imagex64.exe tool (it should be put to a pendrive previously from the Windows Automated Installation Kit), and then they can have a personalized Windows installation media for the given system. If you do a lot of re-installation, it is recommended to put every personal data to a different partition/physical drive than on which the system is installed. | |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Tips for installing Windows 7 (to allow MS software updates)