Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : What Pascal brand&model card are you crunching with?
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I have switched from MSI to Palit/Gainward as they provide the most efficient and most silent Pascal cards at present. | |
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I'm using a Gainward GTX 1080 Phoenix GLH (Goes Like Hell) edition card | |
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Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Waterforce Xtreme Gaming HDMI 3xDP 8GB | |
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Two throw in my two cents. Pascal is generally a good choice because of power efficiency. There is no disastrous board partner design on market, so you cannot do anything wrong with buying a GTX1080. My suggestion is to let purpose, individual preferences and available space decide. See the below review (German only) from Computerbase (comparison of a few air-cooled custom axial designs). | |
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... They are very fast, most silent and maintain low temperatures as well. The only real CONs are their bulky heatsinks. There are no wonders in cooling: the larger the heatsink, the lower the temperature will be at a given power output; therefore two slot cards (with axial fans) will be always louder and / or hotter than 3-slot cards. I have good experiences with a Zotac GTX980Ti AMP Omega, and an ASUS Matrix Platinum GTX980Ti. I prefer the Zotac's fin alignment: in which the heatpipes are parallel with the length of the card, and the fins are parallel with the height of the card. (the ASUS Strix 1080 is using this alignment now.) In this way the hot air could be removed at the top of the card(s) by fans blowing outwards (upwards). The ASUS GTX980Ti Strix OC is loud. The Gigabyte Windforce GTX980Ti G1 Gaming is a bit better. About efficiency: an OC card will always be less efficient than a non-OC one. The overall power consumption of the card could be lowered by tweaking its PSU by applying more power phases than the standard, using FETs with lower switching time and Rds(on), using better capacitors. Lower working temperatures also lower the power consumption by a fraction. My Gainward GTX 1080 Phoenix GLH (Goes Like Hell) edition card is silent, but a WDDM OS couldn't utilize this card high enough. Hopefully I can make it work with Windows XP x64, then I will report back. | |
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There are no wonders in cooling: the larger the heatsink, the lower the temperature will be at a given power output; therefore two slot cards (with axial fans) will be always louder and / or hotter than 3-slot cards. Correct, the 2-slot has to use a higher flow rate in order to remove the same heat quantity from the (smaller) cooling fins. About efficiency: an OC card will always be less efficient than a non-OC one. The overall power consumption of the card could be lowered by tweaking its PSU by applying more power phases than the standard, using FETs with lower switching time and Rds(on), using better capacitors. yes.. and parasitic capacitances in general as to the passive components but also the print layout, if I may add that to your list. That's the reason why an architecture shrink is faster than its predecessor, a scale down simply reduces capacitances and improves slew rates. Lower working temperatures also lower the power consumption by a fraction. No doubt. If there is heat, there must be a loss of energy on the electrical side, thus a voltage decrease is always a good idea, as it reduces power by square. The only question is how long do the chips play along. ;-) ____________ I would love to see HCF1 protein folding and interaction simulations to help my little boy... someday. | |
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Thanks for the info Retvari and Joerg, | |
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One question more, are you running one or two wus per GPU? I'm running one. | |
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I run two per GTX 1070 or 1080... but that is a habit from Poem in order to utilize the GPU to >90% making sure it gets sufficient CPU support per task. It worked perfectly there, however I did not manage yet with GPUGRID neither with short nor with long runs. | |
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Zoltan, what utilization do you have on your 980ti? Do you observe any load oscillations? It depends on the workunit, but usually 95-96%, ±1%. | |
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Strange. My 1070 does not get better than 90% and the 1080 is even worse, maybe 75%. No matter how many tasks and the CPU/GPU ratio. As if the algorithm is not yet Pascal optimized. | |
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A Pascal Settings and Performance thread would be useful to discus such matters. | |
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Strange. My 1070 does not get better than 90% and the 1080 is even worse, maybe 75%. No matter how many tasks and the CPU/GPU ratio. As if the algorithm is not yet Pascal optimized. FWIW my 1060 runs @ 95% with 2 tasks at a time at stock settings. What's truly amazing is that according to my UPS it's only pulling 45 watts. | |
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Back on Topic. Unless I am mistaken, Trotadors question was which Pascal card(s) do we use ... but he did not specifically ask for a 1080. From price and price/performance ratio I assume that the 1060 6G and 1070 8G will be more popular anyway in the long term. | |
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Should get a GTX1060-3GB tomorrow, and will probably replace a GTX970 with it in a Linux system to generate some sort of early like for like performance comparison, if possible; it's difficult with tasks performing so differently. | |
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I installed an MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G just a week ago. | |
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The load on the card typically hovers around 60%. Power draw according to hwinfo is 63W. Sounds as if the 1060 is not fully utilized and could go much faster than that. See also the other topics http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4413 For all I know there is no magic bullet yet to correct that. Rather a mix of many influencing factors. ____________ I would love to see HCF1 protein folding and interaction simulations to help my little boy... someday. | |
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ASUS GeForce STRIX-GTX 1060-6G-GAMING | |
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FWIW my 1060 runs @ 95% with 2 tasks at a time at stock settings. What's truly amazing is that according to my UPS it's only pulling 45 watts. Could you use HWinfo64 (https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php) to check your power usage and report it here? I'm curious, because according to that my 1060 pulls around 65W when only running at 60% load. HWinfo will tell you the GPU load, power draw, temperature and many other things. | |
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ASUS GeForce STRIX-GTX 1060-6G-GAMING Same question as in previous post. Could you use HWinfo64 to report some numbers? I'd like to find out how you get the %usage so high, I can't get mine to go over 65%. | |
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I've finally purchased a Gainward Phoenix GLH as Retvari. I've installed it in an ubuntu 16.04.1 host substituting a 750Ti with a dual e5 2690 v1 CPU configuration (boost 3.3 GHz). I've left two threads unused out of 32 to make GPU crunching smoother, rest left cruching WCG now. | |
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A co-worker got me into compute crunching after I splurged on a Titan X Pascal, pretty cool stuff. | |
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I am running | |
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A co-worker got me into compute crunching after I splurged on a Titan X Pascal, pretty cool stuff. Make sure those VRMs and MOSFETs are cool, those are the things that kill the card typically if left hot. Also make sure the ram chips are cool | |
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I wondered about that too; I left the stock blower on and took off the heatsink (per Gamers Nexus): The blower cools the baseplate which sinks heat from the VRM and transistors. Previously the stock heatsink cooled the RAM chips around the GPU, but apparently GDDR5X uses much less voltage than chips of the past and doesn't get very hot. The plate is just cool enough to touch under full load, i'd say around 60C. Your/anyone's thoughts? | |
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... on a Titan X Pascal ... The BNBS WU's i'm doing now take about 6-7 hours depending on ambient temperatures, averaging about 1.2 M credits per day. Usage is pretty much a constant 85%, so I imagine these runs aren't entirely Pascal-optimized yet.Well, these BNBS WU's are the most GPU utilizing tasks here at GPUGrid (I see 99% GPU usage on my GTX980Tis under Windows XP & SWAN_SYNC). You can optimize your system to such high-end card by applying the SWAN_SYNC environmental value to make the GPUGrid app to use a full CPU thread to feed the GPU. It is also recommended to crunch CPU tasks only on one CPU thread, or not crunch CPU tasks at all. To apply the swan_sync environmental value: Copy systempropertiesadvanced to your clipboard Click on the Start button, paste and press [enter]. Click on [Environmental Variables] Look for the lower section called "System Variables", click on the [New] button below the list of System Variables. Type swan_sync in the name field Type 1 in the Value field Click [OK] 3 times. Exit BOINC manager with stopping scientific applications. Start BOINC manager. | |
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... on a Titan X Pascal ... The BNBS WU's i'm doing now take about 6-7 hours depending on ambient temperatures, averaging about 1.2 M credits per day. Usage is pretty much a constant 85%, so I imagine these runs aren't entirely Pascal-optimized yet.Well, these BNBS WU's are the most GPU utilizing tasks here at GPUGrid (I see 99% GPU usage on my GTX980Tis under Windows XP & SWAN_SYNC). You can optimize your system to such high-end card by applying the SWAN_SYNC environmental value to make the GPUGrid app to use a full CPU thread to feed the GPU. It is also recommended to crunch CPU tasks only on one CPU thread, or not crunch CPU tasks at all. Zoltan, how did windows XP work with your gtx 1080? ____________ Cruncher/Learner in progress. | |
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Zoltan, how did windows XP work with your gtx 1080?The GPUGrid app v9.14 does not work under Windows XP, even if I hack the latest Windows XP driver to have my GTX 1080 installed under Windows XP. However I successfully used it under Windows XP with other projects (Einstein@home and SETI@home if I recall it correctly). While I'm using the x64 edition of Windows XP, it seems that the app thinks it's not an x64 OS, or it simply checks the version of the OS, and exits if it's under v6.x. | |
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[To apply the swan_sync environmental value] Awesome, thanks for the tip. Saw a ~10% increase with that. One issue though, it seems the app won't use a full thread, at least not consistently. It'll very occasionally (for .5 secs every 2 mins. or so) spike to 91% on a single thread, but it hovers at 20-40% across ALL cores the vast majority of the time. Not sure if it's related, but my GPU still isn't fully utilized at 90% (although it is more so than before). How would I get it to run full-speed on one thread? | |
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You're welcome.[To apply the swan_sync environmental value] One issue though, it seems the app won't use a full thread, at least not consistently. It'll very occasionally (for .5 secs every 2 mins. or so) spike to 91% on a single thread, but it hovers at 20-40% across ALL cores the vast majority of the time.This is how every modern OS distribute the workload across all available cores/threads. It has some risks to use only one core (thread) all the time, as that core will be hotter than the others, and in the long term it could reduce the lifetime of the CPU chip. Not sure if it's related, but my GPU still isn't fully utilized at 90% (although it is more so than before).It's related to the Windows Display Driver Model, which could not be turned off. The Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU has very advanced techniques to make the thread change of a process as "seamless" as possible. How would I get it to run full-speed on one thread?It's easy: Start task manager by right click on the taskbar and then click on "task manager". Click on "more details" at the bottom if you haven't already done that. Click on the "details" tab, and look for the acemd.914-80.exe, right click on that and select "Set affinity". Then select as many threads as you want (an even-odd pair of threads resides on the same, single "core"). | |
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Have few weeks GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition. I started testing gpugrid apps.. first ADRIA_FOLDGREED90_crystal_ss_contacts_100_ubiquitin_ | |
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Been running my Titan X for a couple of nights now and am a little surprised it's been up to 1.8GHz when it boosts. Pretty impressive for the blower cooler on such a massive chip. | |
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Just replaced two Maxwell EVGA Titan X Hybrids with two EVGA 1080Ti SC + Hybrid kits. Works like a charm. The PC is in a closet, yet the GPUs don't exceed 50C for GPUGRID and 70C for PrimeGrid CUDA apps. Using 382.05 drivers. | |
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Rion Family wrote: I see the best results running 2 work units per card under GPUGRID. Iiiiinteresting... Care to share your app_config.xml? Tuna | |
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You can find it here. | |
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You can find it here. You are awesome! | |
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Just added an EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3. The host is here. | |
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Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : What Pascal brand&model card are you crunching with?