Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GTX 1080
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I'm considering replacing my current old and completely insufficient GTX 650 with the new GTX 1080 when it becomes available. I'm also going to bite the bullet and upgrade to Windows 10 to take advantage of DirectX 12. | |
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Should be just fine, I think some work units are CPU limited to some degree but I don't think that means you wouldn't see improvement from a faster GPU, some people might mention the fact that your PCIE is only 2.0, but that should make little difference in x16. | |
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Thanks, Skyler. | |
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Does anyone have a GTX 1080 already? | |
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I'm considering replacing my current old and completely insufficient GTX 650 with the new GTX 1080 when it becomes available. I'm also going to bite the bullet and upgrade to Windows 10 to take advantage of DirectX 12. I think 16gb of ram should be more efficient if you can swing that too. Microsoft just came out saying anything less than 4gb makes Win10 slow. Right now they are selling both 1070's and 1080's, most are already sold out or on backorder though. You can check the status here: http://www.nowinstock.net/ Just click on the 1080 or 1070 link. Soon though the secondary market will be free to flood the market with their own versions of these and there should be plenty to go around. Some early reports have said the fan noise can be a bit loud as it changes alot, with some aftermarket programs doing little to change that. One manufacturer is coming out with a water cooled one, all in one package, that should solve that problem though. This thread at Einstein has lots of details about the cards and even some links to some sites that were able to test some of the new cards. NONE though did any testing on running Boinc workunits though: https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=12101 | |
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Right now they are selling both 1070's and 1080's, most are already sold out or on backorder though. You can check the status here: http://www.nowinstock.net/ Just click on the 1080 or 1070 link. Soon though the secondary market will be free to flood the market with their own versions of these and there should be plenty to go around. Some early reports have said the fan noise can be a bit loud as it changes alot, with some aftermarket programs doing little to change that. One manufacturer is coming out with a water cooled one, all in one package, that should solve that problem though. This thread at Einstein has lots of details about the cards and even some links to some sites that were able to test some of the new cards. NONE though did any testing on running Boinc workunits though: Read through the Einstein thread. Why anyone would buy NVidia cards for running Einstein is beyond me. Maybe the new ones will perform better but I'm skeptical. I run mostly NVidia but that's because I primarily crunch GPUgrid. Have tried them on other projects and generally they're poor performers compared with AMD. Maybe I just haven't found the right project. Are there any other projects in which NV cards perform well? | |
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Does anyone have a GTX 1080 already? Installing one now. Titan X were quite underwhelming compared to GTX 980s with GPUGRID long runs on a per core/per clock basis. I have a feeling the GTX 1080 might do the same to the future big-die cards. Slower, but not proportionately so. Might be an efficiency buy (980) over a absolute performance buy (980 Ti/Titan X). I expect GTX 1070 to do the same. | |
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In the UK the only additions that will be available in the next few days (2-4) are founder editions of the GTX1080, and they will cost £619. Manufacturer editions are due in several weeks, up to a month for some. They will cost ~£40 less. No sign of the GTX1070's. | |
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Does anyone have a GTX 1080 already? Admin team to upgrade ACEMD - stay tuned. From host #295749: <core_client_version>7.6.22</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <message> (unknown error) - exit code -59 (0xffffffc5) </message> <stderr_txt> # GPU [GeForce GTX 1080] Platform [Windows] Rev [3212] VERSION [65] # SWAN Device 0 : # Name : GeForce GTX 1080 # ECC : Disabled # Global mem : 4095MB # Capability : 6.1 # PCI ID : 0000:01:00.0 # Device clock : 1733MHz # Memory clock : 5005MHz # Memory width : 256bit # Driver version : r368_20 : 36825 #SWAN: FATAL: cannot find image for module [.nonbonded.cu.] for device version 610 NAMD 2.11 500 time steps of stmv (satellite tobacco mosaic virus - million atom) Great find skgiven.
Though the provided driver (branch) is not up to date in the massive 1.2GB package so one has to re-install the most recent driver afterwards. (First CUDA toolkit in a long while without up to date CUDA / graphics driver.) | |
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Read through the Einstein thread. Why anyone would buy NVidia cards for running Einstein is beyond me. Maybe the new ones will perform better but I'm skeptical. I run mostly NVidia but that's because I primarily crunch GPUgrid. Have tried them on other projects and generally they're poor performers compared with AMD. Maybe I just haven't found the right project. Are there any other projects in which NV cards perform well? The benefit of NV cards is that they can run CUDA and OpenCL. AMD/ATI can't do CUDA (without a lot of jiggery pokery and then only poorly). For those who mainly crunch here NV is the way to go and you have a range of backup GPU projects which you can participate on with the same device. NV cards are good at POEM also. They might not be quite as good as ATI but they are very close (probably within 20% for equivalently priced cards). They used to be, and perhaps still are good at some of the maths projects but that's not my scene. Compared to AMD/ATI the NV cards are bad at MW and poor at Einstein, but good at POEM and excellent here. Based on the specs very little will change in that respect. Unless there is something specific in the GTX1080 and perhaps CUDA8 for Einstein (who are presently still Beta running a CUDA5.5app) I can't see anything changing there. ____________ FAQ's HOW TO: - Opt out of Beta Tests - Ask for Help | |
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Read through the Einstein thread. Why anyone would buy NVidia cards for running Einstein is beyond me. Maybe the new ones will perform better but I'm skeptical. I run mostly NVidia but that's because I primarily crunch GPUgrid. Have tried them on other projects and generally they're poor performers compared with AMD. Maybe I just haven't found the right project. Are there any other projects in which NV cards perform well? I'm currently running 15 NVidia GPUs and of course they work great here as they're the only card supported. Are there any projects though that run both AMD and NVidia where NVidia wins? I can't think of any but possibly there's one/some. Of the projects I've tried (many) there's generally a big gap, with AMD coming out on top. Would like to know of a good project to run these cards on when GPUGrid is out of work. From what I can see of the math projects AMD dominates there too. Not an NV basher as I have 15 and am currently running only 2 AMD. But reality is reality (maybe): http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation/ | |
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Yep, ditto on my host #179637: <core_client_version>7.6.22</core_client_version> Will wait in the wings for an update. Thank you. | |
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The article skgiven pointed out alluded to such compatibility issues. Probably the admins will need a 10xx card in order to iron out the problems. | |
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Basically the app doesn't recognise the GPU architecture, so it can't get tasks to run. | |
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I have a GTX 1080, but getting computational errors. Any idea when they will fix this? | |
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I expect that only Matt and Gianni are able to update the app, so only they could tell you. | |
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On folding@home output range from : | |
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Read through the Einstein thread. Why anyone would buy NVidia cards for running Einstein is beyond me. Maybe the new ones will perform better but I'm skeptical. I run mostly NVidia but that's because I primarily crunch GPUgrid. Have tried them on other projects and generally they're poor performers compared with AMD. Maybe I just haven't found the right project. Are there any other projects in which NV cards perform well? The GTX 750 Ti's run great on Einstein. As I posted there, my GTX 750 Tis on singles BRP6-Beta work units are averaging 7800 seconds at 60% TDP as measured by GPU-Z, or 36 watts (Win7 64-bits). That is better than any of the AMD cards I have tried (HD 7790, HD 7870) in terms of efficiency (PPD/watt), though it was a while ago and I don't have the numbers. But things fall down with the GTX 960, apparently because the 128 bit memory bus (the same as on the 750 Ti) can't keep up with the increased number of shaders on the 960. I think that may be more or less true with the higher-end cards also, though I would expect the GTX 970 to be somewhat more efficient than the 980 for that reason also. Both the GTX 750 Ti and the GTX 960 are very good on POEM too, as skgiven noted above, even though that is OpenCl and designed for the GCN architecture. At least those Nvidia cards are slightly more efficient than the AMD cards as well, though I have not checked out the higher-end cards on POEM. And on Folding, while we are on the subject, the Maxwell architecture is the best; I don't think the AMD cards are nearly as good for efficiency there either, even though they use OpenCl cores now. | |
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Both run well at Prime Grid too with Nvidia being faster on some parts and AMD being faster on others. | |
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Now we have the $199 RX 480 due to be available on June 27th: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-launch/ | |
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The AMD Radeon RX 480 is expected to feature graphics performance levels between the GeForce GTX 970 and GeForce GTX 980 graphics card so we can expect some decent numbers from this cost effective solution. http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-launch/#ixzz4Ak4vlFIn That is all very interesting, but at 150 watts the TDP is also between the GTX 970 and 980. So AMD is now effectively competing with Maxwell (if you don't need CUDA of course), but I don't see anything that says they can compete against Pascal. It is good to have another choice, and the price is right, but it has to be to compete with year (or two) old technology. | |
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Read through the Einstein thread. Why anyone would buy NVidia cards for running Einstein is beyond me. Maybe the new ones will perform better but I'm skeptical. I run mostly NVidia but that's because I primarily crunch GPUgrid. Have tried them on other projects and generally they're poor performers compared with AMD. Maybe I just haven't found the right project. Are there any other projects in which NV cards perform well?I don't know the AMD cards' credit/watt ratio, but my GTX980Ti can process a Binary Radio Pulsar Search (Parkes PMPS XT) v1.57 (BRP6-Beta-cuda55) task in 1860~2000 sec. By a quick browse on the top hosts list I could not find any GPU (including AMD and NVidia) which can process a workunit from this batch faster than this. Maybe I'm a record holder at Einstein@home too? EDIT: ok, I know that the user can set the number of simultaneous Einstein@home tasks in their profile for maximizing GPU usage/throughput which hurts runtimes, but I'm not sure if it's worth doing on Linux hosts, and I've checked a couple of such hosts too. | |
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HI, | |
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Does anyone have a GTX 1080 already? Will wait for the 1080ti Classified and by that time the architecture issues should be worked out. ____________ 1 Corinthians 9:16 "For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!" Ephesians 6:18-20, please ;-) http://tbc-pa.org | |
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we expect great performance from the GTX1080 but at the moment we don't have any.When will this happen? | |
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Does anyone have a GTX 1080 already? I keep hoping to get some news, I know if I don't want for the custom cooled ti version I'll really regret it, but not seeing any news will make the 1080gtx tempting once the prices drop. | |
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Does anyone have a GTX 1080 already? You can see here who has it and who doesn't and which models too: http://www.nowinstock.net/ | |
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Picked up an EVGA 1080 on launch day - silly prices here in the UK. | |
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When they get a GTX1080/GTX1070 to work with they need to recompile the app using the latest CUDA 8 dev kit, then perform some in-house alpha testing and then Beta test it here. Might also be compatibility issues with previous generations which would need to be ironed out. My guess is several weeks minimum but possibly after the summer. Don't know if they can run multiple app versions, but would be best to. | |
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When they get a GTX1080/GTX1070 to work with they need to recompile the app using the latest CUDA 8 dev kit, then perform some in-house alpha testing and then Beta test it here. Might also be compatibility issues with previous generations which would need to be ironed out. My guess is several weeks minimum but possibly after the summer. Don't know if they can run multiple app versions, but would be best to. Personally hope that this process takes a while as it will most likely forebode yet another WU duration and upload size increase :-( | |
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Today I've ordered a Gainward GTX 1080 Phoenix, so I hope that things will rev up here, as the Pascals fill the market thus the computers of the potential crunchers in the following weeks. | |
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Eagerly waiting for GPUGrid to support GTX 10 series cards before I trade up. | |
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When they get a GTX1080/GTX1070 to work with they need to recompile the app using the latest CUDA 8 dev kit, then perform some in-house alpha testing and then Beta test it here. Might also be compatibility issues with previous generations which would need to be ironed out. My guess is several weeks minimum but possibly after the summer. Don't know if they can run multiple app versions, but would be best to. I still shudder when I think of that August crash a few years ago when everyone went off to Majorca. It was a month of disaster. But things have been much better recently, and I hope there have been some lessons learned. | |
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While they probably won’t be of any use here AMD/ATI's RX 480 is due to launch on 29th June 2016. For gaming it will likely compete with the GTX1070 and in crossfire may well outperform one GTX1080. In terms of gaming value it will be a competitive card. Hopefully this will drive down the price of the GTX1080 and GTX1070 but it will also reduce the sell-on value of most existing cards as will the RX 470 and RX460, also set to launch in 2 days. | |
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The Radeon RX 480 was released today. It's a mid-range card in terms of gaming performance & competitive at the $200 to $240 price. | |
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Competition is good for all of us. | |
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skgiven wrote: Two RX480's should compete enough to reduce 1080 and 1070 prices. Any remaining GTX900 series cards will devalue slightly too, and any future 1060 and below will have direct competition either with the 480 or the 470 or 460. Beyond wrote: Competition is good for all of us. I think there's no real competition between AMD's RX480 and NVidia's GTX1080-1070, as they're playing in a different league. Expecting that a mid-range card will reduce the price of a high-end card is in vain. This is like if you would expect that the reduced price of the GTX980Ti will reduce the price of the GTX1080, because two GTX980Ti is faster than one GTX1080. If someone has an SLI or Crossfire capable MB which is more expensive than an MB without this capability, I would expect that this owner would buy the more expensive GPU as well, or even more of them. So I expect that the price of the GTX1080 won't be reduced significantly in the near future. If something could drive the price of the GTX1080 down is the GP-102 chip based cards. But NVidia would be a fool to shoot themselves in the foot, so I expect they will release this chip only in a form of a very expensive Titan XYZ card, just as they did it with the largest Maxwell chip. Perhaps a GTX 1080 Ti will be released before Christmas based on a partially disabled GP-102 chip. | |
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My Gainward GTX 1080 Phoenix GLH card has arrived. | |
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My first observations with the GTX 1080 while crunching Einstein@home are the following: | |
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My first observations with the GTX 1080 while crunching Einstein@home are the following: Running 2 Parkes PMPS XT units simultaneously picked up about 15% net RAC on my windows 10 computer with 980ti cards the last time I ran them, a little bit less on windows xp computer with the 980ti card, with the Arecibo units the pick up was insignificant for both computers. I see that you got the card running on windows xp computer, did you have to use any kind of trick to do that? | |
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Running 2 Parkes PMPS XT units simultaneously picked up about 15% net RAC on my windows 10 computer with 980ti cards the last time I ran them, a little bit less on windows xp computer with the 980ti card, with the Arecibo units the pick up was insignificant for both computers.After the first results showing insignificant PPD gain, I've returned to run only 1 wu at a time. I see that you got the card running on windows xp computer, did you have to use any kind of trick to do that?I did just the "usual" trick, but the lines to insert should look like this: %NVIDIA_DEV.1B80% = Section008, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B80 and NVIDIA_DEV.1B80 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080" | |
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Out of curiosity I've installed Folding@home on my host with the GTX 1080, and it shows ~1.060.000 PPD while crunching a fah core 0x18 workunit. The total crunching time of this wu is about 2 hours. | |
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In the UK GTX1080 prices have fallen from between £700 and £800 to around £600. Many factors have contributed to the price fall: | |
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So I've joined the club of the "participants requesting a new app". Same here. I have a 1080 which should be arriving this week and which will be replacing my 980Ti. I have also sold my 970 (1070 should be shipping to me soon), so until GPUGrid gets a new app for Pascal, I'm down to a 960 (which is also up for sale) participating here. | |
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In the UK GTX1080 prices have fallen from between £700 and £800 to around £600. Many factors have contributed to the price fall: Entertaining video. It's good to see closer competition returning to the GPU scene. Regardless of what a few seem to maintain, competition in the GPU arena has always driven prices down. Here's another RX480 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQZkWdWCkwM Also true of the CPU. Judging from the information on the AMD Zen CPUs it appears that thankfully Intel will once again be under price/performance pressure. Remember even the not that distant past: if it wasn't for AMD we'd all most likely still be running $1000 nasty P4 CPUs with 100MHz yearly speed increases. Whether we're AMD or Intel fans or brand neutral, we should all send AMD a thank-you Xmas card for saving us a lot of money while stimulating increased performance in both the GPU and CPU areas. | |
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OT. Zen should be very interesting for crunchers, especially GPU crunchers. ____________ FAQ's HOW TO: - Opt out of Beta Tests - Ask for Help | |
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So I've joined the club of the "participants requesting a new app". Just sold my last 960, leaving me with no cards to work on GPUGrid until Pascal support is added. | |
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Has anyone donated any of these Pascal cards to the research team yet or are we waiting on the budget on this project to handle that completely? I am willing to donate towards that if needed. I am sure donating towards hardware is cheaper than shipping it from the USA to Spain. | |
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Support is coming "soon": link | |
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They have Pascal's to test with. We're waiting on bug free drivers and the public release of CUDA 8 dev kit - required to recompile the app. | |
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Any update on 1080 support? I have 2 just idling while I'm at work. | |
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Any update on 1080 support? I have 2 just idling while I'm at work. There is no update on ANYTHING during summer months. This team needs to address a number of issues including but notwithstanding, Pascal support, errors, timeouts, amount of WU's/GPU, deadline, etc. | |
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Check this thread for updates. | |
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