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Message 1622 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008 | 17:40:33 UTC

The official CUDA2.0 is out. We are going to update the compilers when the driver installed by Linux installers (as yum for Fedora) are higher than 177.67.

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Message 1624 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008 | 17:50:14 UTC

The 177.35 driver for win is CUDA 2.0 beta2, so this should be only a minor update? Is 177.35 still the recommended driver for win?

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Message 1629 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008 | 22:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 1624.

The 177.35 driver for win is CUDA 2.0 beta2, so this should be only a minor update? Is 177.35 still the recommended driver for win?

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On http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.htm the CUDA drivers are out of beta, they are now at 177.84

Yet for me the only Windows driver that would work was the CUDA 1.1 drivers (169.21)

Shame as the 177.84 drivers are a better set of drivers (for me) than the 169.21 version.
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Message 1632 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008 | 23:42:46 UTC - in response to Message 1629.

The 177.35 driver for win is CUDA 2.0 beta2, so this should be only a minor update? Is 177.35 still the recommended driver for win?

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On http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.htm the CUDA drivers are out of beta, they are now at 177.84

Yet for me the only Windows driver that would work was the CUDA 1.1 drivers (169.21)

Shame as the 177.84 drivers are a better set of drivers (for me) than the 169.21 version.

Same here I'm still using 169.21. I now remember why I never upgraded. During testing when there was no work, I found folding@home had a NVIDIA app, I had to install some 17X series driver they said it needed. I downloaded from NVIDIA site and when tried to install it told me I had no hardware it supported (???). I gave up and never went any further.

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Message 1633 - Posted: 22 Aug 2008 | 23:48:04 UTC - in response to Message 1632.

Same here I'm still using 169.21. I now remember why I never upgraded. During testing when there was no work, I found folding@home had a NVIDIA app, I had to install some 17X series driver they said it needed. I downloaded from NVIDIA site and when tried to install it told me I had no hardware it supported (???). I gave up and never went any further.


The 177.35 drivers only supported a few GPU's
"GeForce GTX 280
GeForce GTX 260
nForce 780a SLI
nForce 750a SLI"

You could install them if you used a modified .inf file.
Now on Windows I cannot get PS3GRID to run with any CUDA driver :(

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Message 1638 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 8:20:59 UTC

177.35 work well with any GF8/GF9 and GTX260/280 without any modification of the .ini file ;)

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Message 1643 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 10:29:01 UTC

Things looking good:

- I couldn't install 177.35 on my 9800GTX+, it said "no compatible hardware found"
- the .inf-modified driver did install and can be found here:
http://forums.hardwarelogic.com/f13/nvidia-forceware-177-35-a-14176.html

- now it works for me! Well, too early to shout "success", but it did get past the first minute, which was not possible with 177.79
(see http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=304 )

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Message 1650 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 13:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 1643.

So, we have found out several issues with the drivers and anomalies between cuda1.1 and recent drivers.

We were using driver 173.x thanks to the nvidia-installer --update which does not seem to update to anything recent. Our machines were all on old drivers which worked quite well with the cuda1.1 toolkit which was used to compile. All of you were on newer drivers. Our fault, we did not realize that nvidia-installer does not work as expected.

Although, they had told us that from 1.1 to 2.0 there would be back compatibility this is not the case. This was the problem with the Windows 64 boinc client.

Upgrading our machines to the latest drivers we could finally reproduce the errors, which means that we can now solve them.

In a way it seems that driver-toolkit version need to match to work properly, but there is not specification of which driver work with which compiler.

NEXT

I am expecting that everything will be much better with cuda2.0.
Finally cuda2.0 is out, so we will upgrade as soon as possible to the 2.0 toolkit and will test on the newest drivers.

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Message 1651 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 18:42:09 UTC - in response to Message 1650.

So CUDA 2.0 drivers re NOT compatible with CUDA 1.1 apps?
Bit daft of Nvidia if that's the case :(
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Message 1655 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 21:01:39 UTC

That's not exactly what he's saying. I'd imagine it's more a matter of how the different compilers tolerate inaccuracies in the syntax etc. And of course bugs in the compilers :p

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Message 1658 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 21:48:52 UTC - in response to Message 1655.

That's not exactly what he's saying. I'd imagine it's more a matter of how the different compilers tolerate inaccuracies in the syntax etc. And of course bugs in the compilers :p

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New Windows boinc client are out 6.3.10. Please test if the client works (report the correct coprocessors). The application will come out soon.

Soon, I am going to upload a new Linux 64 application for CUDA2.0.
This is running fine on our machines with drivers 176.x.
Some restrictions:
1) This application works only for >=1.1 computing capable cards (some of the 8xxx, all the 9xxx series and 2xx). You can check on wikipedia if your card is at least 1.1.
2) The application is 20% slower at the moment compiled with CUDA2. We are looking into it, but for now this is the case.

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Message 1659 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 21:52:37 UTC - in response to Message 1658.
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New Windows boinc client are out 6.3.10. Please test if the client works (report the correct coprocessors). The application will come out soon.
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:) I am trying :) with 177.84 drivers from nvidia www...

2008-08-23 23:46:51||Coprocessor: GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (1)

so report is correct

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Message 1660 - Posted: 23 Aug 2008 | 21:57:26 UTC

23/08/2008 23:49:52||Starting BOINC client version 6.3.10 for windows_x86_64
23/08/2008 23:49:52||Coprocessor: GeForce 9600 GT (1)
23/08/2008 23:49:52||Version change (6.2.18 -> 6.3.10)

Fine, on vista64 :p

I'm waiting for the new application for win64 :p

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Message 1667 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 0:05:36 UTC

here with cuda 2.0 177.84 drivers and boinc 6.3.8 on WinXP 32 bits

PS3grid cuda 6.39 app crashes for all WUs :(

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Message 1668 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 0:07:14 UTC - in response to Message 1667.

here with cuda 2.0 177.84 drivers and boinc 6.3.8 on WinXP 32 bits

PS3grid cuda 6.39 app crashes for all WUs :(


Sorry, still testing on it.

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Message 1669 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 0:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 1668.

here with cuda 2.0 177.84 drivers and boinc 6.3.8 on WinXP 32 bits

PS3grid cuda 6.39 app crashes for all WUs :(


Sorry, still testing on it.

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My Mistake it's still app 6.30

i believed i saw 6.39 and updated to drivers 177.84 !

I must sleep a little i think :)

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Message 1672 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 9:22:33 UTC - in response to Message 1669.

For me the 177.35 work fine with app 6.30, BOINC 6.3.9 and Win XP 32 - maybe you should give them a try instead of the 177.84?

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Message 1680 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 11:33:52 UTC - in response to Message 1672.

For me the 177.35 work fine with app 6.30, BOINC 6.3.9 and Win XP 32 - maybe you should give them a try instead of the 177.84?

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I was with 177.35, app 6.30 and boinc 6.3.8 and all units crashed before too :/

8800 GTS 320 WinXP Pro 32

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Message 1686 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 19:37:11 UTC - in response to Message 1680.

For me the 177.35 work fine with app 6.30, BOINC 6.3.9 and Win XP 32 - maybe you should give them a try instead of the 177.84?

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I was with 177.35, app 6.30 and boinc 6.3.8 and all units crashed before too :/

8800 GTS 320 WinXP Pro 32


http://www.ps3grid.net/result.php?resultid=46486

177.84, 6.3.10, 6.30, errors... as usual :(

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Message 1687 - Posted: 24 Aug 2008 | 19:48:42 UTC - in response to Message 1686.

If all the "older" 88xxer GPUs who only have CUDA 1.0 support cannot crunch any more,is it possible to send two different applications? one for the older cards and the other for the rest?
It schould be easily done with an appl.info.xml file in the ps3grid directory.
There are a lot of the 88xxer cards around who could not participate otherwise.

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Message 1694 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 10:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 1687.

If all the "older" 88xxer GPUs who only have CUDA 1.0 support cannot crunch any more,is it possible to send two different applications? one for the older cards and the other for the rest?
It schould be easily done with an appl.info.xml file in the ps3grid directory.
There are a lot of the 88xxer cards around who could not participate otherwise.


The problem is rather more serious. The code for 1.0 does not work (it crashes) when compiled with CUDA2. So at the moment, we do not have an application 1.0 compatible.

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Message 1695 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 10:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 1694.

If all the "older" 88xxer GPUs who only have CUDA 1.0 support cannot crunch any more,is it possible to send two different applications? one for the older cards and the other for the rest?
It schould be easily done with an appl.info.xml file in the ps3grid directory.
There are a lot of the 88xxer cards around who could not participate otherwise.


The problem is rather more serious. The code for 1.0 does not work (it crashes) when compiled with CUDA2. So at the moment, we do not have an application 1.0 compatible.

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ok sorry, i missed that.
Does this means that if my cards that are running fine at the moment they will not have troubles with coming/new applikations?

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Message 1697 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 10:59:28 UTC - in response to Message 1695.

If all the "older" 88xxer GPUs who only have CUDA 1.0 support cannot crunch any more,is it possible to send two different applications? one for the older cards and the other for the rest?
It schould be easily done with an appl.info.xml file in the ps3grid directory.
There are a lot of the 88xxer cards around who could not participate otherwise.


The problem is rather more serious. The code for 1.0 does not work (it crashes) when compiled with CUDA2. So at the moment, we do not have an application 1.0 compatible.

gdf

ok sorry, i missed that.
Does this means that if my cards that are running fine at the moment they will not have troubles with coming/new applikations?


Your 1.0 compatible card will fail as soon as you finish the queue of old workunits and will download the new application. On 1.1 cards you just need to update the drivers.

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Message 1698 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 11:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1697.



Your 1.0 compatible card will fail as soon as you finish the queue of old workunits and will download the new application. On 1.1 cards you just need to update the drivers.

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Ok, i will wait for the craches :(
the newest appl i have ist the 6.38, until now no problems with that.

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Message 1700 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 11:12:14 UTC

Hi GDF

When do you think to release the new application based on CUDA 2.0 for windows?

Thanks

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Message 1701 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 11:12:56 UTC - in response to Message 1700.

Hi GDF

When do you think to release the new application based on CUDA 2.0 for windows?

Thanks


Most probably today if all goes well.

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Message 1702 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 13:05:43 UTC

Thanks for the 6.40 application

Which driver should we use? the unit crashed after one minute with 177.83 and 177.84 (the latest driver available on http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html )

My host http://www.ps3grid.net/results.php?hostid=6854

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Message 1703 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 13:08:19 UTC - in response to Message 1702.

Thanks for the 6.40 application

Which driver should we use? the unit crashed after one minute with 177.83 and 177.84 (the latest driver available on http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html )

My host http://www.ps3grid.net/results.php?hostid=6854


still not ready, we are testing it and having problems with the name of the new cudart.dll as it is the same of old cudart.dll...it produces a download error, I don't know why.

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Message 1705 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 13:12:07 UTC

Ah ok, sorry :p

No problem to download for me

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Message 1707 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 14:31:07 UTC - in response to Message 1705.

Just noticed that I have a 6.40 app workunit waiting to run.
Should I just abort it if it's causing problems?

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Message 1708 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 14:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 1707.

Just noticed that I have a 6.40 app workunit waiting to run.
Should I just abort it if it's causing problems?


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Message 1712 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 14:49:51 UTC - in response to Message 1708.
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Just noticed that I have a 6.40 app workunit waiting to run.
Should I just abort it if it's causing problems?


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Umm I can't abort it in Boinc 6.3.10.
Everytime I select the task and click abort, Boinc asks me if I'm sure if I want to abort a PrimeGrid workunit!

Infact no matter what task I pick, it gives the name of another task....

Ahh it only does that if the Boinc manager window is fully maximized, if you click on "restore down" then resize the window (just so you can see the tasks), it lists the right one when you click abort. :s
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Message 1713 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 14:53:48 UTC - in response to Message 1712.

Just noticed that I have a 6.40 app workunit waiting to run.
Should I just abort it if it's causing problems?


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Umm I can't abort it in Boinc 6.3.10.
Everytime I select the task and click abort, Boinc asks me if I'm sure if I want to abort a PrimeGrid workunit!

Infact no matter what task I pick, it gives the name of another task....


If others have the same problem, you should report it to BOINC.

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PS: Windows application 6.41 is out

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Message 1714 - Posted: 25 Aug 2008 | 15:12:35 UTC - in response to Message 1713.
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PS: Windows application 6.41 is out


*edit* oops my bad never seen your other post.*edit*
Does that make the 177.84 (CUDA 2.0) drivers the one to use now (for 6.41 app)
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