..... Done. Looking forward to some WUs.

I'll try a few too ...

If you have a new 5870 ATI GPUs please accept beta work from us, in the following days we will try to upload a new ATI application.

gdf

It could be fine as well.
gdf

no, only 4000 series and up will run opencl. nvidia 8 series and higher will too.

The minimum card is a Radeon 4850. Below this one shared memory is emulated so it is terribly slow.

hi,
AMD does not want us to distribute any DLL at the moment, so you must install it yourself. Sorry about that.
YOU NEED:
1) ATI-opencl-beta driver
2) ATI-opencl-sdk stream SDK
from
here

The minimum card is a Radeon 4850. Below this one shared memory is emulated so it is terribly slow.

WU submitted will be very short just for us to get some data.

gdf

I am getting:

No work sent
Your computer has no Nvidia GPU

(obviously)

This is with BOINC 6.10.18
____________
Reno, NV
Team: SETI.USA

I'm a bit confused, if I install these BETA Driver Files with the Installer which are different than the ATI Drivers I already have installed can I still run Collatz or Milkyway with the Drivers. ???

Do we really need to install the 2) ATI-opencl-sdk stream SDK as it's just a Developer ???

11/10/2009 6:50:08 AM GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/10/2009 6:50:08 AM GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
11/10/2009 6:50:13 AM GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/10/2009 6:50:13 AM GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent
11/10/2009 6:50:13 AM GPUGRID Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
11/10/2009 6:50:44 AM GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/10/2009 6:50:44 AM GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for GPU
11/10/2009 6:50:49 AM GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/10/2009 6:50:49 AM GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent

SKG, I wouldn't expect a lot of work to begin with, their just feeling the ATI Cards out is all I think ...

I'm a bit confused, if I install these BETA Driver Files with the Installer which are different than the ATI Drivers I already have installed can I still run Collatz or Milkyway with the Drivers. ???

I'm running the Collatz Wu's on my i7 with Win XP 64-bit & the New Beta Drivers, they were released 10-8-09 (CAT 9.11 & CAL Version 1.4.467) CAT 9.10 is CAL Version 1.4.368 ... Haven't received any Wu's yet though for the 5870 Cards in the Box.

Drivers and SDK are required.
I am checking on the scheduler log why they are not sent.


Are you accepting beta work?

gdf

I can ask for work but don't get any work:

11/10/2009 3:24:16 PM GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/10/2009 3:24:16 PM GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
11/10/2009 3:24:21 PM GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/10/2009 3:24:21 PM GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent
11/10/2009 3:24:21 PM GPUGRID Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU

You must be logged in to download tools from AMD Developer Central
< this was my stop.

____________
"Silakka"
Hello from Turku > Åbo.

humm, one host got one task now.

gdf

4870x2, got both packages from ATI as instructed!

Sample demo kits provided by ATI were running with no problems!

http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=930617

Myself and my wingman are erroring!

Good jump start up anyway! I'd really like to come back here after a year of absence after frying my GTX 280 here! :)

We have tested on Windows XP and Windows Vista. Where are you running?

gdf

I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 64-Bit, It's the only System I running on my Pharm so I have no other System to Test on ...

I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 64-Bit, It's the only System I running on my Pharm so I have no other System to Test on ...

the 32bit app crashed on my 64bit Win7 too....

Could you build a 64bit Windows App (because 32bit Windows is "dying") or ask Gipsel, he could do this ...

He has XP32 which is what we have tested.
Maybe there is a problem for 64bit.

gdf

He has XP32 which is what we have tested.
Maybe there is a problem for 64bit.

gdf

Why would a 64-Bit OS be a problem if the Video Cards is doing the Work ??? Or does the CPU share duties with the Video Card running the ATI Wu's ???

It seems to be working with my XP64 machine, with a 4870.

http://www.gpugrid.net/show_host_detail.php?hostid=55930

Edit: The two tasks returned so far validated okay. But just FYI, this is showing in the sdterr out:

MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor"
____________
Reno, NV
Team: SETI.USA

But just FYI, this is showing in the sdterr out:

MDIO ERROR: cannot open file "restart.coor"

He has XP32 which is what we have tested.
Maybe there is a problem for 64bit.

gdf

Why would a 64-Bit OS be a problem if the Video Cards is doing the Work ??? Or does the CPU share duties with the Video Card running the ATI Wu's ???

The 32bit application is linked against the 32bit libraries and the 32bit opencl.dll. And you can't install the 32bit OpenCL SDK on a 64bit system, so I think the 32bit version of this dll is simply missing. I hope they will fix it when it gets a normal part of the graphics driver (the 64bit driver contains 32bit as well as 64 bit version of the CAL libraries for example).

zombie:
what sdk/driver did you install the 32 bit or the 64 bit.

I am going to send out other 10 WUs to try again. No changes on the application.

gdf

If you have a new 5870 ATI GPUs please accept beta work from us, in the following days we will try to upload a new ATI application.

More WUs out.
PoorBoy. Can you try to reinstall the SDK?
GDF

Hi,

I just set everything up (beta driver and SDK). After attaching to the project I got 2 tasks which both resulted in a VPU recover - hadn't seen one of these in quite a while :(

Link to my host (Radeon 4870 1GB Windows 7 x64)

I get calc errors too :(

http://www.gpugrid.net/show_host_detail.php?hostid=40433

max

Edit: FYI, two more tasks completed and validated. 4 of 4 now.

Hi,
some info I forgot to include in my previous post.

The 2 WUs didn't crash right at start. They were running a few seconds (elapsed time was counting up) before the display became frozen. After about 10 seconds the driver was automatically reset (with notification in systray) and the tasks had errored out.

Hi,
some info I forgot to include in my previous post.

The 2 WUs didn't crash right at start. They were running a few seconds (elapsed time was counting up) before the display became frozen. After about 10 seconds the driver was automatically reset (with notification in systray) and the tasks had errored out.

Edit: FYI, two more tasks completed and validated. 4 of 4 now.

10 for 10 now. All valid and credit granted.

I'm 1/1 although 5 wingmen had 'error while computing- http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=930617

Could just be the 48xx Cards will run them & the 58xx Cards won't, I don't have a whole lot of success running the Milkyway Wu's either with my 5870 Cards. For that matter the last time I tried a week or so ago my 4870 Cards didn't have much success running the Milkyway Wu's either. Lot's of VPU errors across the Pharm trying to run them.

I carely reinstalled the drivers and the SDK on this pc

http://www.gpugrid.net/show_host_detail.php?hostid=40433

The task starts few seconds,then freeze and then give the calc error, no driver errors.
I got AQUA running on the CPU.

My system is very stable with MW and Collatz,never got any error.

Hi, first of all, i have to say, that i'm happy about the progress of adding Ati to GPUGRID. I just read about it and did install all the stuff from the AMD-Homepage. But everytime i'm crunching get an error. Looking in the task shows this:

<core_client_version>6.10.18</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -40 (0xffffffd8)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
LR
SWAN OCL: FATAL : Error at ../swan/swanlib_ocl.cpp:145 : -11

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Maybe someone can tell me what to do to fix it?...

Ok, I'm in! I just received a 5850 yesterday, and managed to find another one yesterday--which I promptly ordered....it will be here early next week. ;)

So, help a flunky out here please. I DLed and installed:

ati-opencl-beta-driver-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7.zip (129MB)

It's showing in Device Manager as: Driver Version: 8.671.0.0 10/26/09...Is that correct?

I DLed ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7-64.exe (59.3MB). When I double click it...it wants to unzip to: C\...\....\AppData\Local\Temp, so I let it go there....is that correct?

Also, the DLs are for Vista SP1....as far as I know, that rig is SP2....is that going to be a problem?

Very Happy about this....!!! ;)

---------------------------------
I detached and re-attached and it keeps saying "Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU". :(

---------------------------------
Detached again. Shutdown Boinc completely. Restarted it. Re-attached to GpuGrid, and this is the deal:


11/12/2009 8:58:28 AM Fetching configuration file from http://www.gpugrid.net/get_project_config.php
11/12/2009 8:58:43 AM GPUGRID Master file download succeeded
11/12/2009 8:58:48 AM GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
11/12/2009 8:58:48 AM GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
11/12/2009 8:58:53 AM GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/12/2009 8:58:53 AM GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent
11/12/2009 8:58:53 AM GPUGRID Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
11/12/2009 8:58:55 AM GPUGRID Started download of logops3grid.png
11/12/2009 8:58:55 AM GPUGRID Started download of project_1.png
11/12/2009 8:58:56 AM GPUGRID Finished download of logops3grid.png
11/12/2009 8:58:56 AM GPUGRID Started download of project_2.png
11/12/2009 8:58:57 AM GPUGRID Finished download of project_1.png
11/12/2009 8:58:57 AM GPUGRID Started download of project_3.png
11/12/2009 8:58:59 AM GPUGRID Finished download of project_2.png
11/12/2009 8:59:00 AM GPUGRID Finished download of project_3.png
11/12/2009 8:59:29 AM GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/12/2009 8:59:29 AM GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for GPU
11/12/2009 8:59:34 AM GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/12/2009 8:59:34 AM GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent
11/12/2009 8:59:34 AM GPUGRID Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
11/12/2009 9:00:09 AM GPUGRID Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
11/12/2009 9:00:09 AM GPUGRID Requesting new tasks for GPU
11/12/2009 9:00:14 AM GPUGRID Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/12/2009 9:00:14 AM GPUGRID Message from server: No work sent
11/12/2009 9:00:14 AM GPUGRID Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU

I DLed ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7-64.exe (59.3MB). When I double click it...it wants to unzip to: C\...\....\AppData\Local\Temp, so I let it go there....is that correct?

I DLed ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-beta4-vista-win7-64.exe (59.3MB). When I double click it...it wants to unzip to: C\...\....\AppData\Local\Temp, so I let it go there....is that correct?

It unzips two separate installers to the directory you specified (one file is the SDK the other one contains sample code).
After they're unzipped you still need to install the SDK from this directory (you probably can skip the samples).

So far:
Any of the 4xxx cards proved to be very very slow. It is unlikely that we will support them due to lack of proper shared memory. For 5xxx, we still could not test because we don't have any, AMD does not send us any and the ones attached do not run at the moment.

We will see in the following days if we can get the performance of a 5xxx card.

gdf

If OpenCL is a/the problem - dont use it - maybe this project could use CAL&Brook like the other projects too (Collatz, Milkyway)

Just had 7 Error out on a Dual 4850 X2 Box ... :(

Also wanted to give a personal Thanx! to Gispel! GpuGrid is a great project and I was hoping you would find your way here!!

a nice hello for all here ;-)

Also wanted to give a personal Thanx! to Gispel! GpuGrid is a great project and I was hoping you would find your way here!!

But I have nothing contributed here. The credit has to go to GDF and his team for porting the CUDA application to OpenCL.

Is it possible to use a 3rd party FFT library?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gpufft/

Well, I just picked up a 3rd 5850 via HF/XFX combo deal. Shipping today. So, by this time next week I will have 3x 5850s in hand.

I'm ready....

Let's DO this....;)

I'm ready too but have set mt Box to NNW for now, unless there's something new to try I can't see spitting out just error's & having the Box Hang as a result of them. I'll keep an eye on the Thread and if something new is going to be tried I'll try & grab a few ... :)

PS: As a side note Subscribing to a Thread is Pointless for me as I never receive a Notice by E-Mail even though I have my Preferences set to do so ... ???

So, we are waiting to receive a 5870 which we ordered and in meanwhile cleaning up the code. But I think that most likely the ATI SDK is the problem (maybe a new release will help). We will also test under windows7 from now on, so to make windows 7 the recommended OS.

thanks for testing. Something more in a week or so.
gdf

Ok, I understand. I'll have 3 cards in hand next week. Still looking to pick up a 4th. Then a WCing solution! Running short on cash....So, which version of Win7: HP, Pro? Not really looking to spend for Ultimate unless absolutely necessary. Checking out the "Family packs"....

I'll post back with some links. Not sure how big of an issue it really is...number of complaints. I've not had any issues with the 1 card that I have....

BTW, it seems that the issue effects the 5xxx series generally, not just 1 or 2 cards...


Here's a couple quick links:

5850 Boot Problem

5850 long boot time

Google is full of them, but it may be a lot of the same folks looking for answers wherever they can find them, plus whatever the issue is may have already been resolved by ATI in the new stock.


Looks like it may just be a bios issue on some MBs....Asus being one of them. Mine is installed on an Asus P5E-VM HDMI and I've had no issues...

Also, some 5870s seem to have boot issues. Are you aware of this? If not, I'll try to relocate some links

Sounds good, so we're 11 for 11 atm...

Would you care to list MB brands/ models?

I have 15 Box's, all have Quad Cores in them 6600 - 6700 - 9450 Variity & 1 i7 920 ... All the Box's have Gigabyte DQ6's of Various Models as they came out DQ6 - X38 DQ6's - and a X58 Extreme for the i7 ...

Ok, well, this particular person determined their issue to be how they plugged up their psu:

Post #51

So, that's something to keep in mind...

FFT will not be a problem at first.
We have implemented an alternative algorithm which will be fine to run several types of WUs and we still have Nvidia for the WUs which require FFT.

gdf

The ffts take something like 20% of the time, but they are many short FFTs.
I am not sure if there are FFTs libs for ATI which can run with the openCL environment. Maybe Gipsel can tell us something.

gdf

We are still waiting for the 5870 to come. Sorry for the delay.

gdf

We are still waiting for the 5870 to come. Sorry for the delay.

gdf

But there are WU for ATI?
I updated beta drivers + OpenCL as requested, I checked in the project options to accept WU beta, but does not download anything and the server continues to give me the error that I have an NVIDIA GPU.
I forgot something?

Excuse my English but I used the google translator to write my message from my mother tongue is Italian.

Thank you all for your reply.

I updated beta drivers + OpenCL SDK as requested

Starting BOINC client version 6.10.19 for windows_x86_64
ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.467, 1024MB, 1360 GFLOPS peak)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
Message from server: No work sent
Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU
____________

@GDF
I use my 5870 under Win7 X64 since early October, running Collatz and MilkyWay. If you need somebody more to test your ATI version just let me know.

poorboy

...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???

You could use them on Folding@home

poorboy

...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???

You could use them on Folding@home

There is a client for ATI F@H but it currently does not produce as well as Nvidia cards do.

poorboy

...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???

You could use them on Folding@home

I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...

poorboy

...I sure hope you get this going soon as Collatz & Milkyway are Complete Flops a lot of times like right now. Most of my ATI Cards are just sitting Idle & have been for quite awhile now because Collatz & Milkyway are down and may be down for ???

You could use them on Folding@home

I only run the BOINC Projects, they'll sit Idle before I run Folding@home ...

Collatz & Milkyway are both up and running. I keep looking her for a ATI app, but it don't look like you will be supporting my 4850 at this time.

The ffts take something like 20% of the time, but they are many short FFTs.
I am not sure if there are FFTs libs for ATI which can run with the openCL environment. Maybe Gipsel can tell us something.

gdf

from what we have seen the performance on the HD4xxx series is very very slow.
So it is runs but very slow. The ATI openCL emulates the shared memory via global memory. At this point they are so slow that it is likely that we will restrict to HD5xxx cards.

gdf

To quantify GDF's remark about the speed of 48xx cards, we currently find that a 4850 runs our code about as fast as an NVidia 8600. This is almost entirely down to the lack of local shared memory and we have every reason to expect that the 5xxx cards, which have shared memory on the processor itself, will be significantly faster. We're still waiting for the postman, though!

MJH

https://developer.apple.com/mac/library/samplecode/OpenCL_FFT/index.html

from what we have seen the performance on the HD4xxx series is very very slow.
So it is runs but very slow. The ATI openCL emulates the shared memory via global memory. At this point they are so slow that it is likely that we will restrict to HD5xxx cards.

gdf

Hm, if a HD48590 is really considered as VERY SLOW I maybe should completely forget about crunching.... :-(

graphics dont really need cache so ATi can get away with out having it working for now. GPGPU is a very different story. btw, its not technically a cache. its called local data share. as of now only brook and IL have support for LDS. its the exact same reason folding@home is so slow on ATi cards. to give you an idea of how fast LDS is vram is 115GB/s and LDS is 1.9TB/s on a 4870, a lot of apps need that bandwidth which is almost 20x faster than main memory access.

Is it slow because it uses system RAM or just does not have any GPU Cache RAM???

I updated beta drivers + OpenCL SDK as requested

Starting BOINC client version 6.10.19 for windows_x86_64
ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.467, 1024MB, 1360 GFLOPS peak)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
Message from server: No work sent
Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU

I updated beta drivers + OpenCL SDK as requested

Starting BOINC client version 6.10.19 for windows_x86_64
ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.467, 1024MB, 1360 GFLOPS peak)
OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
Message from server: No work sent
Message from server: Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU

Exaclty the same here (except for having client 6.10.18). Same GPU/OS. Enabled doing Beta Work in the account settings. But still getting no work.
I'm looking forward to help you, but don't know how.

Johannes

Any updates? Did you contact PoorBoy on his generous offer? This is the project I wish to see 5xxx implemented, then I will go and buy these cards. I'm not prepared to do that just for mathematical problems (Collatz), but this project and the science made makes it almost sound smart ;)

Would any of the WU's require double precision? The new 57xx's apparently don't have support for it...

We could not find a 5870, but we got a 5850 that should be good enough.
I have just installed now, removing the old 8800gt.

gdf

We are working on the optimization now. We will not put the application out until it delivers what a 5870 should deliver in terms of performance. Be patient.

gdf

We are working on the optimization now. We will not put the application out until it delivers what a 5870 should deliver in terms of performance. Be patient.

gdf

Well, if the performance of 5850(70) would be equal to the performance of nVidia top devices, this optimization will be successful, otherwise no one would use their top ATI cards with PPD of 2 years old nVidia. But honestly I hope ATI would outperform nVidia in this very important project. Good Luck Fellows.

Despite credits GPU-Grid has one major advantage compared to both other BOINC projects for ATI: it's got a reliable server and enough work. If MW and Collatz were running fine, they'd offer enough work as well.. but for now MW still crashes rather often and when ever this happens the Collatz server is brought to its knees. GPU-Grid could bring some balance to the force ;)

MrS

Agreed. I have my old 9800 GTX+ on this, but I would really like to use my 5870 on a project that will do mankind some real good. I like MW and all, I think it's neat, but well, you know. F@H still hasn't updated their ATI app to work properly with them either, so not a lot of options out there for us ATI primary crunchers.

I am looking forward to this. I'll pull the trigger on some 5870s as soon as they work on the Grid. They are still hard to find but that should improve too.

Regards,
Bob